oz over there to tie off the blood, that's road rage happening here in manhattan. >> i was there during that. >> if it turns out that there is a gang related component, how does this case change or does it at all? >> i mean, i think it opens up the discussion about gang involvement, gang prevalence, initiations, a lot of stuff i had experience with in los angeles and san francisco working in hardcore gang unit detail. you know, they're very involved, they're taken over, replaced surrogates for the family, for fathers that are absent and they find a place with them where they want to belong, want to be part of it. >> ask you a question. assume they're a member of the crips, all right, and guns were sent from the crips chapter in los angeles to oklahoma, would that make it a federal offense? >> if there's gun trafficking, depending who was involved in it, maybe not necessarily for them, depending how they received it from, who they received it from, they have to trace it back. >> not going to matter.